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Kamenjarka



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:24 am    Post subject: Gubi bas Reply with quote

Ovako...znači radi se o miniju 96. god spi.
Pali najnormalnije i na leru radi skroz normalno.
Problem je što mi u vožnji gubi gas, znači krene se ko gasit, nema snage pa to prođe pa onda ide normalno, pa samo na tren izgubi gas pa vozi...i tak.
Ideje?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Senzor protoka zraka možda(kažem možda jer je uglavnom c'est problem kod auti sa injectionom)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baš gubi bas?!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riki88888888 wrote:
Senzor protoka zraka možda(kažem možda jer je uglavnom c'est problem kod auti sa injectionom)


Jel moguce taj senzor iskljuciti i voziti se bez njega, da li ce i tad se javljati isti problem?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M&M wrote:
riki88888888 wrote:
Senzor protoka zraka možda(kažem možda jer je uglavnom c'est problem kod auti sa injectionom)


Jel moguce taj senzor iskljuciti i voziti se bez njega, da li ce i tad se javljati isti problem?


na novim autima nije jer javlja gresku....sad koliko je sofisticiran na mini-u ne znam....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

problem je do goriva ili do struje Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ak ti kaj pomaže...

ak ne valja Luftmassenmesser, motor nema dobru smjesu odnosno ima previše ili premalo zraka pa zato motor nepravilno radi i gasi se po mom iskustvu ponekad čak i na leru.

Luftmassenmesser ima u sebi jednu nit koja se užari i tak se čisti. postoji i nekakva tekučina za čiščenje koju dela LIQUI MOLY,al u HR nisam vidil da neko prodaje.

tak da je bolje NE DIRAJ.jednom mi je frend išel čistit na starom M5 sa nekom žbrljotinom pa je moral kupovat novo.

a može bit još sto stvari...od ventila zatim struje prek injektora pa regulatora pritiska,lajtung benge,jel ti sve dihta na usisnoj grani (da ne vleče nigde falš zrak)...

frgule se na našim 20+ godina starim kramama operu,počiste, preslože,repariraju ,a injektore nitko ne dira.a priča se po selu da ih znaju ljudi dat na ultrazvučno čiščenje Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

M&M wrote:
riki88888888 wrote:
Senzor protoka zraka možda(kažem možda jer je uglavnom c'est problem kod auti sa injectionom)


Jel moguce taj senzor iskljuciti i voziti se bez njega, da li ce i tad se javljati isti problem?


a kak bu se onda odredila ispravna količina zraka i dobila pravilna smjesa(senzor radi tako da se mjeri struja kroz njega u hladnom i vrucem stanju,a strujanje usisnog zraka hladi zice tako se dobiju podaci). osim toga najčešče se auto odma zgasi ak nema Luftmassenmesser-a.
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Kamenjarka



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bas i dalje udara ali se gubi pomalo Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Ovako...svi vakumi i fuel trap su novi, nove su svječice, kablovi, bobinu sam stavi drugu i isto je bilo, tak da nije ni ona. neki dan sam vadio svječice i sve četri su mi crne, suhe ali crne što bi reklo da je smjesa pre bogata gorivom, danas odem napravit eko test i sve 5. prolazi najnormalnije. jedino mi je onda ostao taj senzor protoka zraka u filteru, pa kad mi on stigne iz gb budem vidio. ak nije ni on e onda je već problem.
ima još tko kakvu ideju?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh, ja sam na televizorima, Crazy Drinks or Beer
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fali ti woofer Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nije ni senzor u filteru zraka. i dalje ista stvar. znači na leru sve 5, pa i u prvoj i drugoj, ali zato u trećoj već na uzbrdicama ili kad mu dam jače gas krene trokirati. ima ko kakvu pametnu ideju ili nekog majstora za preporučiti koji bi to mogao riješiti??
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

javim se kad se odtrijeznim ... Drinks or Beer *Lovacka*
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Kamenjarka



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ovako, da malo updejtam situaciju. promijenio sam još i senzor temperature vode u ajnšpricu, no i dalje sve isto. i onda u dogovoru sa Miletom koji mi je ustupio pola svog minija da mi pomogne i na tome sam mu beskrajno zahvalan nastavio sam ići dio po dio, i prvi dio koji sam promijenio bio je sklop releja koji se nalaze na servo kočnicama http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/Electrics/YWB10022.aspx?09&ReturnUrl=/search/classic/relay.aspx|Back%20to%20search
i sad auto radi skroz normalno, malo nemirno na leru ali u vožnji skroz normalno. dali je to stvarno moga biti taj dio? i dali je moguće da zbog njega sad na leru malo igra?
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